Hello All.

I have Googled this problem and i'm coming to the end of the line!

I have 3 SMS 2003 SP2 sites. We'll call them A,B and C.
A is the Central Primary site, B and C are Primary child sites. The hierarchy is established across the sites and all was well up to about a month ago. All of a sudden all the clients on site B have lost their list of "Actions" in the actions tab of the control panel SMS icon except for Machine Policy Retrieval and User Policy Retrieval. On top of  this, the newly built PC's are appearing in my "All Systems" Collection , but are showing up as being in a "Workgroup", not on the Domain. These PC's are definately on the Domain.The PC's are acurrately showing as being assigned and having a client installed in the SMS MMC. Site B's servers, just 2 of them, are showing up in my collection as domain members, but i think that was before this problem started. Since then, all the XP workstations have started joining the domain after a new roll out, but it looks like the SMS client hasn't initialized properly as they are all showing up in the MMC as workgroup members! AARRGGHH!
I have pasted a section from ccmexec.log below.
Any help would be really appreciated. I have tried using the toolkit and it shows the MP is running okay, i have re-installed IIS, i have re-installed the MP. All is up and running fine but i am still unable to get the clients to initialize. Under the "Components" tab in the control panel, all the components are showing as "installed", but none are Enable or Disabled. The clients auto discover their MP and WINS has all MP's listed, and the static SLP entry is in there too. What the hell have i missed??
Thanks in Advance
Mani

p.s I have replaced the ip address with x.x.x.x as i am working in a secure environment.

<![LOG[OutgoingMessage(Queue='mp_[http]mp_policymanager', ID={E1ECA958-CBF3-401E-9933-D273F8F02ADF}): Will be discarded (expired).]LOG]!><time="16:11:03.484+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="3" thread="1192" file="messagequeueproc_outgoing.cpp:1233">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:11:03.500+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="2296" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:12:13.546+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="2296" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:13:25.500+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="2296" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[OutgoingMessage(Queue='mp_[http]mp_policymanager', ID={CAABBEFF-D814-4F8F-B7B5-7CC8EDCA1E86}): Will be discarded (expired).]LOG]!><time="16:13:57.609+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="3" thread="2296" file="messagequeueproc_outgoing.cpp:1233">
<![LOG[OutgoingMessage(Queue='mp_[http]mp_policymanager', ID={30D28141-DCE7-44C2-BB1A-2CD5A5151ACB}): Will be discarded (expired).]LOG]!><time="16:13:57.609+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="3" thread="640" file="messagequeueproc_outgoing.cpp:1233">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:13:57.625+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="2296" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:14:52.671+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="640" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:16:32.718+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="640" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:19:46.812+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="2396" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:23:59.640+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="2740" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[OutgoingMessage(Queue='mp_[http]mp_policymanager', ID={106D7D02-4687-4802-B7F8-5F68DF35CD6D}): Will be discarded (expired).]LOG]!><time="16:25:26.890+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="3" thread="1740" file="messagequeueproc_outgoing.cpp:1233">
<![LOG[OutgoingMessage(Queue='mp_[http]mp_policymanager', ID={F4C03552-6295-409E-9D20-E6EF1F7E7AB6}): Will be discarded (expired).]LOG]!><time="16:25:26.890+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="3" thread="2524" file="messagequeueproc_outgoing.cpp:1233">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:25:26.906+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="1740" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:26:36.937+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="1740" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:28:20.968+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="1180" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:31:31.015+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="1492" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">
<![LOG[HTTP ERROR: URL=http://x.x.x.x/ccm_system/request, Port=80, Code=12030, Text=ERROR_WINHTTP_CONNECTION_ERROR]LOG]!><time="16:37:11.125+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="CcmExec" context="" type="1" thread="3984" file="ccmhttperror.cpp:121">

Oh, i forgot to add, unfortunately, we are not gifted with the lovely AD here, it's still an NT4.0 domain! :-( , i have checked the site boundaries and they are definately in different subnets. There are not that many clients per site, so i am using the default subnet that's appeared in the Boundaries tab on all the site servers. However, i have taken no chances and have put the subnets that are used on each site in the Site Boudaries tab, and the Roaming Boundaries tab, to no avail. :-(

I will add, that i have looked in Clientlocation.log and Locationservices.log and it shows that the clients are talking to the MP and it's finding it through WINS, i have pasted some logs below:

Clientlocation.log
<![LOG[Setting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="11:50:44.421+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="smsclientclass.cpp:380">
<![LOG[Assigning client to site 'WAR']LOG]!><time="11:50:44.421+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="smsclientclass.cpp:392">
<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="11:50:44.421+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="smsclientclass.cpp:874">
<![LOG[Client is currently not assigned to any site]LOG]!><time="11:50:44.515+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="smsclientclass.cpp:493">
<![LOG[Removing client site assignments]LOG]!><time="11:50:44.515+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="smsclientclass.cpp:663">
<![LOG[Raising event:
[SMS_CodePage(437), SMS_LocaleID(1033)]
instance of SMS_RemoteClient_Reassigned
{
ClientID = "GUID:BA09F522-33A5-4B42-8BD5-9C3A929DE177";
DateTime = "20070717105044.562000+000";
LastAssignedSite = " ";
MachineName = "PPPARDT475076";
NewAssignedSite = "WAR";
ProcessID = 3724;
SiteCode = "WAR";
ThreadID = 3860;
};
]LOG]!><time="11:50:44.562+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="event.cpp:522">
<![LOG[Client assigned to site 'WAR']LOG]!><time="11:50:44.593+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="smsclientclass.cpp:618">
<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="12:01:05.750+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3708" file="smsclientclass.cpp:874">
<![LOG[Assigned Site is WAR]LOG]!><time="12:01:05.781+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3708" file="smsclientclass.cpp:892">
<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="12:01:15.437+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="4000" file="smsclientclass.cpp:874">
<![LOG[Assigned Site is WAR]LOG]!><time="12:01:15.437+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="4000" file="smsclientclass.cpp:892">
<![LOG[Setting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="12:02:05.531+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="smsclientclass.cpp:380">
<![LOG[Assigning client to site 'WAR']LOG]!><time="12:02:05.531+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="smsclientclass.cpp:392">
<![LOG[Raising event:
[SMS_CodePage(437), SMS_LocaleID(1033)]
instance of SMS_RemoteClient_AssignmentUnchanged
{
ClientID = "GUID:BA09F522-33A5-4B42-8BD5-9C3A929DE177";
DateTime = "20070717110205.546000+000";
LastAssignedSite = "WAR";
MachineName = "PPPARDT475076";
ProcessID = 3592;
SiteCode = "WAR";
ThreadID = 3056;
};
]LOG]!><time="12:02:05.546+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="event.cpp:522">
<![LOG[Discover Default MP]LOG]!><time="12:02:05.562+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1188">
<![LOG[Site Code is WAR; Management Point is x.x.x.x]LOG]!><time="12:02:14.765+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1198">
<![LOG[Setting Current Management Point]LOG]!><time="12:02:14.765+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="smsclientclass.cpp:817">
<![LOG[Management Point is 25.8.48.34]LOG]!><time="12:02:14.765+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="smsclientclass.cpp:822">
<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="12:02:52.312+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="1840" file="smsclientclass.cpp:874">
<![LOG[Assigned Site is WAR]LOG]!><time="12:02:52.328+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="1840" file="smsclientclass.cpp:892">
<![LOG[Autodiscover Site]LOG]!><time="12:02:55.843+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="1840" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1139">
<![LOG[Got new site WAR]LOG]!><time="12:02:55.937+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="1840" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1149">
<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="12:06:45.218+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3364" file="smsclientclass.cpp:874">
<![LOG[Assigned Site is WAR]LOG]!><time="12:06:45.234+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3364" file="smsclientclass.cpp:892">
<![LOG[Autodiscover Site]LOG]!><time="12:06:46.890+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3364" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1139">
<![LOG[Got new site WAR]LOG]!><time="12:06:46.968+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3364" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1149">
<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="13:09:48.140+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3964" file="smsclientclass.cpp:874">
<![LOG[Assigned Site is WAR]LOG]!><time="13:09:48.140+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3964" file="smsclientclass.cpp:892">
<![LOG[Autodiscover Site]LOG]!><time="13:09:50.046+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3964" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1139">
<![LOG[Got new site WAR]LOG]!><time="13:09:50.593+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3964" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1149">
<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="15:52:51.500+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3140" file="smsclientclass.cpp:874">
<![LOG[Assigned Site is WAR]LOG]!><time="15:52:51.500+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3140" file="smsclientclass.cpp:892">
<![LOG[Autodiscover Site]LOG]!><time="15:52:53.046+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3140" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1139">
<![LOG[Got new site WAR]LOG]!><time="15:52:53.234+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3140" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1149">
<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="16:39:40.015+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="1996" file="smsclientclass.cpp:874">
<![LOG[Assigned Site is WAR]LOG]!><time="16:39:40.015+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="1996" file="smsclientclass.cpp:892">

Locationservices.log
 
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="11:50:44.000+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Retrieved site code as 'WAR' from SLP]LOG]!><time="11:50:44.343+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="lsad.cpp:1781">
<![LOG[Current assigned site code for the client is 'WAR']LOG]!><time="11:50:44.593+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="lsad.cpp:2424">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:50:44.609+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="lsad.cpp:2075">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve NLB default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:50:44.609+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="lsad.cpp:2081">
<![LOG[Client has been reassigned, refreshing MP information]LOG]!><time="11:50:46.796+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3952" file="scheduledcleanupendpoint.cpp:164">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:50:46.828+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3952" file="lsad.cpp:2075">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve NLB default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:50:46.828+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3952" file="lsad.cpp:2081">
<![LOG[Failed to resolve IP address from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:50:53.734+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="3" thread="3860" file="lswins.cpp:323">
<![LOG[No NLB default management point is present, attempting to resolve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:50:53.734+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="lsad.cpp:2087">
<![LOG[Retrieved Default Management Point through WINS: x.x.x.x]LOG]!><time="11:50:53.734+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="lsad.cpp:2101">
<![LOG[Persisting the default management point in WMI]LOG]!><time="11:50:53.734+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="lsad.cpp:2603">
<![LOG[Persisted Default Management Point Location locally]LOG]!><time="11:50:53.734+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="lsad.cpp:2609">
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="11:50:53.781+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3860" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Failed to resolve IP address from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:50:56.000+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="3" thread="3952" file="lswins.cpp:323">
<![LOG[No NLB default management point is present, attempting to resolve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:50:56.000+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3952" file="lsad.cpp:2087">
<![LOG[Retrieved Default Management Point through WINS: x.x.x.x]LOG]!><time="11:50:56.000+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3952" file="lsad.cpp:2101">
<![LOG[Persisting the default management point in WMI]LOG]!><time="11:50:56.000+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3952" file="lsad.cpp:2603">
<![LOG[Persisted Default Management Point Location locally]LOG]!><time="11:50:56.000+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3952" file="lsad.cpp:2609">
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="11:50:56.015+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3952" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Executing Task LSRefreshDefaultMPTask]LOG]!><time="11:51:01.484+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3796" file="scheduledcleanupendpoint.cpp:125">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:51:01.593+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3796" file="lsad.cpp:2075">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve NLB default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:51:01.593+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3796" file="lsad.cpp:2081">
<![LOG[Failed to resolve IP address from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:51:11.062+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="3" thread="3796" file="lswins.cpp:323">
<![LOG[No NLB default management point is present, attempting to resolve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="11:51:11.062+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3796" file="lsad.cpp:2087">
<![LOG[Retrieved Default Management Point through WINS: x.x.x.x]LOG]!><time="11:51:11.062+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3796" file="lsad.cpp:2101">
<![LOG[Persisting the default management point in WMI]LOG]!><time="11:51:11.062+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3796" file="lsad.cpp:2603">
<![LOG[Persisted Default Management Point Location locally]LOG]!><time="11:51:11.250+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3796" file="lsad.cpp:2609">
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="11:51:11.265+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3796" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Client has bootstrapped trusted key information.]LOG]!><time="11:51:11.703+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3796" file="lssecurity.cpp:1997">
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="11:53:04.578+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3796" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Assigning to site 'WAR']LOG]!><time="12:02:05.515+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2333">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:05.578+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2075">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve NLB default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:05.578+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2081">
<![LOG[Failed to resolve IP address from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:14.765+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="3" thread="3056" file="lswins.cpp:323">
<![LOG[No NLB default management point is present, attempting to resolve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:14.765+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2087">
<![LOG[Retrieved Default Management Point through WINS: x.x.x.x]LOG]!><time="12:02:14.765+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2101">
<![LOG[Assigning to default Management Point '25.8.48.34']LOG]!><time="12:02:14.765+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2370">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:14.781+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2075">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve NLB default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:14.781+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2081">
<![LOG[Failed to resolve IP address from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:24.859+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="3" thread="3056" file="lswins.cpp:323">
<![LOG[No NLB default management point is present, attempting to resolve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:24.859+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2087">
<![LOG[Retrieved Default Management Point through WINS: x.x.x.x]LOG]!><time="12:02:24.859+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2101">
<![LOG[Persisting the default management point in WMI]LOG]!><time="12:02:24.859+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2603">
<![LOG[Persisted Default Management Point Location locally]LOG]!><time="12:02:24.859+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:2609">
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="12:02:24.875+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3056" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Executing Task LSRefreshDefaultMPTask]LOG]!><time="12:02:25.546+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="772" file="scheduledcleanupendpoint.cpp:125">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:25.578+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="772" file="lsad.cpp:2075">
<![LOG[Attempting to retrieve NLB default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:25.578+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="772" file="lsad.cpp:2081">
<![LOG[Failed to resolve IP address from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:42.703+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="3" thread="772" file="lswins.cpp:323">
<![LOG[No NLB default management point is present, attempting to resolve default management point from WINS]LOG]!><time="12:02:42.703+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="772" file="lsad.cpp:2087">
<![LOG[Retrieved Default Management Point through WINS: x.x.x.x]LOG]!><time="12:02:42.703+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="772" file="lsad.cpp:2101">
<![LOG[Persisting the default management point in WMI]LOG]!><time="12:02:42.703+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="772" file="lsad.cpp:2603">
<![LOG[Persisted Default Management Point Location locally]LOG]!><time="12:02:42.703+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="772" file="lsad.cpp:2609">
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="12:02:42.718+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="772" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Client has bootstrapped trusted key information.]LOG]!><time="12:02:42.968+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="772" file="lssecurity.cpp:1997">
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="12:02:55.890+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="1840" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Retrieved site code as 'WAR' from SLP]LOG]!><time="12:02:55.937+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="1840" file="lsad.cpp:1781">
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="12:06:46.921+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3364" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Retrieved site code as 'WAR' from SLP]LOG]!><time="12:06:46.968+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3364" file="lsad.cpp:1781">
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="13:09:50.093+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3964" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Retrieved site code as 'WAR' from SLP]LOG]!><time="13:09:50.593+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3964" file="lsad.cpp:1781">
<![LOG[Unable to retrieve AD site membership]LOG]!><time="15:52:53.093+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3140" file="lsad.cpp:200">
<![LOG[Retrieved site code as 'WAR' from SLP]LOG]!><time="15:52:53.234+-60" date="07-17-2007" component="LocationServices" context="" type="1" thread="3140" file="lsad.cpp:1781">

Can anyone help? This is becoming critical now and any help would really be appreciated

Regards

Mani Aira

United Kingdom

MCSE - CCNA - MCP SMS2003

Clients that only have 2 actions tell me that the MP is having issues. I would start there by reviewing the mpcontrol.log on the server.

Since you do not have Active Directory, you must be either directly installing the client or using Network Discovery. Since your systems are "showing" as workgroup and not in the domain, what network discovery settings do you have? Are you looking at subnets, the domain, snmp or what? Whereever it reads from must not have the domain listed. For example, if your network discovery reads from your router's ARP cache, it may not have the domain info.

What happens if you install the client by hand. That client should show up in the console as a domain member, not a workgroup. Tell me what happens when you do that. If you don't get anything, then you have server issues because the client can't communicate.

The default boundary subnet is the subnet the server is on. Are your clients on the same subnet as the server? If not, you will have to add them too.

Thanks for your reply Brian.

As for the client installation method, i haven't used either that you mentioned. :-) We have ghosted the PC's with the client already installed. We ran the ccmdelcert.exe utility on the client once installed on the master PC, imaged it and then install it to a group of PC's. Once on, it starts to initialize and pick up it's default MP. It works a treat and it did work on site B up to a month ago. I have no network discovery settings enabled as i don't need them, i only have heartbeat discovery running. You have come up with an interesting point though, at that particular site they have had some extreme network issues and i think their router has been down a few times, i will investigate that. I have tried installing the client manually and it still comes up with the http error in ccmexec.log. I can plainly see that the client is not talking to the MP, but i did the http://smssiteserver/sms_mp/.sms_aut?mplist  and http://smssiteserver/sms_mp/.sms_aut?mpcert and it worked. I need to add that even though the only 2 servers on that subnet are showing that they are in the Domain on the MMC, the SMS client on them still has the actions list pretty much empty. The clients are on the same subnet as the server. Any other ideas would be really helpful

No problem Brian, i have checked another blog and they insisted that the entire SMS site needs to be removed and re-installed. Is this really necessary?

 mpcontrol.log

Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 13:53:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 14:03:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 14:13:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 14:23:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 14:33:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 14:43:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 14:53:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 15:03:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 15:13:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 15:23:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 15:33:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 15:43:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 15:53:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 16:03:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 16:08:28 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 16:18:28 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 16:28:28 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 16:38:28 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 16:48:28 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 17:03:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 17:13:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 17:23:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 17:33:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 17:43:51 2012 (0x07DC)
Http verification .sms_aut (port 80) succeeded with status code 200, OK SMS_MP_CONTROL_MANAGER 18/07/2007 17:53:51 2012 (0x07DC)

I would not think so. Your log looks perfect.

I wonder what you see if you connect the console to both server A & B. Do all the resources look the same in All Systems on both the primary and central primary?

Yes they do Brian. No matter how i connect , it still shows as all the site B clients in a Workgroup. Remember, because i have access to the Central site, the collections i created there get propagated down to the child sites below, so if i see it on the central, i'll see it on site B as well. I have been asked by my boss to ring Microsoft UK in the morning. Such a shame, i really thought i could sort this out. I'm at home now, it's 9.50pm but i will have another go at it tomorrow. If you need any other logs let me know Brian, i'd be more than happy to post them :-) By the way, just to remind you that the site B servers and the site B SMS server itself also had advanced clients installed on them that once worked, but now don't, and the servers have static IP addresses well within the site boundary, so i think that definately eliminates site boundary issues.

Mani

Brian

In the end Microsoft Premier Support were not as helpful as i wanted them to be, in the end i entirely removed IIS, SQL, BITS and SMS 2003. I re-installled everything and then added site B back to the hierarchy. I made sure i removed any site B PC's from the Central site collections. I then proceeded to re-install the clients on the servers and re-build some new PC's , as the MP guid would have changed, and the Clients are now responding and showing up as Domain and not workgroup. I'm not sure what happened, but i can't help thinking there may have been some corruption within the MP or IIS because of the winHTTP errors. Thanks you very much for your help though.

Regards

Man